4 Year Old Passes Out When Upset

by Kari Winder
(middletown ohio)

Khalil

Khalil

Question: My son is 4 years old, when he gets hurt or angry he starts to cry but nothing comes out, his eyes roll in the back of his head and he starts to have seizures, then passes out.

I have talked to doctors but never had tests done. They seizures started when he was 2 after his father was murdered. It's been about 6 times in 2 years.

What can I do for my son because I don't want to be away from him if it continues to happen. Thank you



Baby Help Line Answer:

Breath-Holding Spells In Children


Hi Kari,

I am so sorry to hear about the traumatic event in your and your son's life. Surely it affects both of you a lot and I hope you have help around you to help you heal.

But regarding your son's seizures, it is possible that I can ease your mind a bit - they are not likely to be related to his father's death.

From what you describe, it sounds as if he has something called breath-holding spells. They are actually more common than one would think, and affect around 1-5% of all toddlers. They often start at around the age of 2 and then disappear at around 5 or 6 years old. And most important, despite being very frightening for the people seeing the seizure, they are not dangerous for the child.

These breath-holding spells are caused by a reflex as a result of an unpleasant even for the child, such as becoming upset or have a fright or a fall for example. It is not a behavior thing and it is not psychological.

There are a few things you can do about the situation. First of all, talk again to a pediatrician, to make sure what is happening really is breath-holding spells. Sometimes they can be confused with other illnesses, such as epilepsy. They are different, though, and a doctor can tell them apart. Try to document all symptoms both before, during and the seizure to discuss with the doctor.

Epilepsy is a lot less common than breath-holding spells and the seizures do not typically occur when a child is upset. A characteristic sequence of stimulus (such as getting hurt), a cry, pause, facial color change, limp unresponsiveness and then jerking marks it as a breath-holding spell, not epilepsy. The best way to distinguish epilepsy from breath-holding is to search for a trigger: epilepsy rarely has one and breath-holding almost always does - like in your son's case.

Your son should also be checked for iron deficiency, which can increase the occurrence of breath-holding spells, and also have a general examination to make sure he is healthy.

When all that is done, make sure you know enough about this situation to be able to teach other people that may be around when it happens.

I understand that you don't want to be away from your son when it happens. But that isn't always possible, for example if you have to go to work.

If you can tell his babysitter, teacher et cetera, what is going on and how to deal with it, then you don't have to be so worried.

For example, one might try calm him down before he gets too frustrated. At 4 years old, you can try distracting him, it may still work. Also make him feel as safe and secure as possible, without limiting his urge to explore the world.

When the spells occur, he should simply be put on his side. No shaking, no water in his face, nothing in his mouth, as some people believe. Just keep him safe and keep calm. Also don't make much fuss about it afterwards.

Remember that if it really is a breath-holding spell, it is an involuntary reflex that isn't dangerous and that he will grow out of.

I hope this helps,

Paula

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Nov 05, 2011
Heart conditions. SCA in children
by: Anonymous

Kari,

I do not see on the page what your husband died from, but if it was from a heart condition I would have every test done to make sure he does not have a heart problem.

Many children are miss diagnosed with seizures when they really have a heart problem.

I lost my son at seventeen to sudden cardiac arrest and I listened to my doctor that he was okay instead of doing more testing and he had an enlarged heart. Electrical problems such as Long Q T syndrome can cause seizures and it is miss diagnosed many times as being a seizure. So have your child checked further. If he is fine then you will have peace of mind knowing that you did every thing to make sure he is okay.

People including doctors don't think of children having some thing wrong with their hearts.

Nov 16, 2011
No heart condition
by: Anonymous

She mentioned her husband was murdered, so it was nothing with a heart condition

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